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Its the late 1930s and Belgium is faced with a potential hostile nationalistic France to the South and a (non-nazi) eastward looking Germany to the east. As part of the rearmament the government is...

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Allows you to use them for coastal landings as well. Throw in some plain landing craft for transport.

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The sea off Flanders is notoriously shallow so thinking about it the LCS is looking even more attractive with some 'dumb' barges for some heavy Artillery ..... think maybe the railways (broad and...

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4kts with relief helmsmen is over a hundred miles a day, Sov doctrine didn't expect that sort of rate of advance even with nukes. Vehicle speed and Rate of Advance are not the same, convoy speed of 40...

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With a 4.5 metre barge width by 40 metres length and 10 kts, can we fit a couple or three "French 75's" onboard?This is the late 30's and the 75mm is still considered a potent weapon, with a possible...

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Fitted three guns onto the barge could cause problems with arcs of fire as they try to shoot into the rear of the gun next door. Also the ROF would require very large shell stores aboard. If we assume...

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What's wrong with the historical solution imposed after France elected a Marxist government during 1936?http://niehorster.orbat.com/021_belg...Read More

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Actually Dave B makes a good point however whilst the frontier defenses faced south as well as east the Belgians cannot afford the same level of fixed defences so are lookin to supplement the south...

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thecroft47 wrote:the 75mm is still considered a potent weapon, with a possible very high rate of fire. (Think 50-60 rounds per minute.  Until it over-heats or you shoot the lands out.)Read More

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1936 France had by far the largest armored force in western Europe and they were generously equipped with field artillery. You aren't going to stop a French invasion with armored trains and river...

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You are right about Rate of Fire.  50 RPM is possible for about 30 seconds.RoF for practical purposes is about 5 RPM continous if you don't want to over-heat the barrels.The 75mm is still very useful...

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Dave - to be honest the scenario stretches plausibility but wanted to write a slightly different AH as OTL WW2 with a POD has been done to death. I would agree that Bel needs more than trains and...

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thecroft47 wrote:You are right about Rate of Fire.  50 RPM is possible for about 30 seconds.RoF for practical purposes is about 5 RPM continous if you don't want to over-heat the barrels.Th...Read More

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Meuse River is rather shallow. Start with a diesel powered Meuse River boat. That way we know draft is shallow enough.Read More

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Excellent picture of the Virginia.However it has had me thinking.  Surely it would be cheaper to deploy, build and maintain a battery of 75-mm guns as a mobile battery.  They can either be horse or...

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There's a reason 105mm has been the most common size army light howitzer for the past 100 years. It's an optimum balance between shell HE payload, rate of fire and weapon size. Give the Belgium army...

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Is Belgium planning to conduct an amphibious invasion of England? I can scarcely think of any other reason for the Belgium Army to purchase landing craft.BTW, hovercraft have existed since 1915. This...

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Dave Bender wrote:There's a reason 105mm has been the most common size army light howitzer for the past 100 years. It's an optimum balance between shell HE payload, rate of fire and weapon size. Read...

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Dave  - Actually i meant this support version of the LCA (see post #13) rather than using them as landing craft - this would ruin an assualt crossing of a river if it appeared round the bend in the...

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I would have thought about the same effect as the equivalent weapons on tanks / armoured cars but constrained to the river where there is no cover and at low(ish) speed. Not sure how much armour there...

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